what if the trolls personalities were opposite though
SOME ONE NEEDS TO DUB THIS. NOW.
I am against it except when a human necessity. Example: Anyone who hunts in the US or other first world countries do not need to hunt, thus I am against it. Very very rarely do humans actually need to kill animals to survive.
Hunting takes place for more reasons than “I want to eat venison today”. Hunting culls out the week, sick, old, animals that are kicked out of their herd/pack, takes care of population numbers, and yes, is used for meat.
You’re right - very rarely these days do people in the USA, Canada, etc have to hunt for meat to survive, but hunting still takes place.
Numerous reasons, the first and foremost reason is conservation - to control the numbers of animals in a certain habitat to keep them from from going over that ecosystem’s carrying capacity. Here in Canada, for example, the government will fly in helicopters looking for beaver lodges, they count them all and tally in about ~1.5 beavers per lodge. Based on how many lodges and beavers they’ve counted, they will give quotas on how many beavers need to be trapped.
You may ask, what’s trapping got to do with hunting? Trapping and hunting are very similar and are done for the same purposes, with the exception of the fur from trapping being sold into the fur trade.
If an animal like a beaver is left alone to breed uncontrollably, they begin to expand their lodges and dams, they begin to destroy vegetation by turning everything around them into a swamp or a marsh, they drown new trees trying to grow and kill any large trees by flooding them with water. If a large damn breaks, it has the possibility to do massive damage with the ensuing flood, such as in the case in Vancouver where a train was literally derailed from a beaver dam breaking, and in Quebec when a beaver dam breaking caused fibre-optic cables to snap, sending a local hospital into a panic, to protect their medical information.
Animals cannot regulate themselves well without passing on disease and parasites, they need assistance in the form of hunting and trapping.
Even “trophy hunting” like the big game safari hunts are done with conservation in mind. You pay to go on a guided tour to hunt a specific animal in a specific area. Sometimes, the animals from game reserves will wander around and bug locals by trampling all over their crops that they need to survive. Game reserves own the animals in them, the animals are considered government property - a local killing one of these animals could get in huge trouble, and would be left with nothing but an illegally poached carcass and ruined crops. He could also contact the government and have them take care of the animal, by coming in with AK-47’s, killing them and the body going to waste.
"An example is the situation I observed, in a country in Eastern Africa, where 6 adult buffalos left the park and entered into a farm where a new crop of corn was growing. The owner of the farm called the park. The park sent 2 rangers with AK47s, the buffalo were destroyed and the meat sold for 50 cents (US$) per pound. Nobody benefited and no doubt the situation will repeat itself.
A trophy hunter would have paid the farm about $2000 per animal plus the meat. If this situation existed no doubt the farmer would have considered the buffalo another asset of his farm, called in a trophy hunter, selected one individual and driven the others back into the park. Trophy hunters, by their nature, once they have their trophy, do not want to shoot another animal, allowing the remaining animals to be driven off.”
The meat from game animals is given to locals. The locals get free cash, free meat, and the trophy hunter gets a skin to have mounted by a taxidermist. The money that goes into purchasing hunting equipment, licenses, etc goes straight back into conservation in every situation.
Ducks Unlimited is a massive organization dedicated to protecting Canada’s wetlands.. and.. you guessed it - they allow hunting on their protected property.
They allow it because they know that it’s beneficial to the wetlands and the animals that live into it, and it’s beneficial for their cause because money from hunting equipment, tags, duck blinds, etc all go back into the government’s Ministry of Natural Resources, and conservation programs.
Hunting, for whatever purpose, helps to protect and sustain the environment and keep species from going extinct.
Hello! I am going to absolutely disagree with you here. I hope this discussion can help educate you about hunting itself and the motivation behind it, seeing as how (in the US, at least), organizations like the US fish and Wildlife work very hard to mislead the public!
I feel like your view is completely anthropocentric, and is based on a complete misunderstanding or lack of understanding about ecosystems and the way we have impacted them in modern times.
First I will address your point claiming that hunting is done “to control the numbers of animals in a certain habitat to keep them from from going over that ecosystem’s carrying capacity.” and “Animals cannot regulate themselves well without passing on disease and parasites, they need assistance in the form of hunting and trapping.” Which are both ludicrous claims.
You see, ecosystems are based on balance. This balance has been maintained without humans for millions of years. Plants grow which feeds herbivores, who then reproduce. Predators eat the prey animals (but not all, ensuring only the strongest survive), they then reproduce and eventually die. They are broken down by fungus/insects/bacteria and the process starts all over again. This ensures that there are no overly dense populations because natural predators are there to keep them in check, and disease/bad luck is keeping predators in check.
This all requires a very delicate balance to operate.
Now imagine taking out an apex predator (an animal which is at the “top” of this particular food chain). In this case we’ll use the wolf.
And everything goes to shit. No more wolves means deer populations start to get higher, which means they eat more food, which takes food away from other animals like rabbits and mice, which means less of them and a proportionally high population of deer. You can’t just take a piece out of the machine and expect it to function properly.
Hunters have gone in and artificially taken apex predators completely out of the equation by killing them, many to the brink of extinction. There are no more wolves, mountain lions, bobcats, and many raptors in the states they used to live. We have to FIGHT to keep these animals alive even in the states they’re still left in. Hunters turn their attention mainly to prey animals such as deer now that the predators are out of the way. But they know that if they hunt them in the numbers they want they will hunt them to extinction. So they breed them in farms and release them into the wild for hunters to kill. They are creating these artificially dense populations so they can kill animals.
I am going to repeat that. THEY are making the deer overpopulated so they can say “There’s a PROBLEM and I’M the one FIXING IT.”
Deer farming generates 3 billion dollars a year. It is a huge industry that relies on hunting. Hunting “preserves” stock their land with deer bred on farms. These deer are often hand tame, and human fed to ensure they survive. They have no part in a natural ecosystem. They are artificially put there by humans!
So now we know that hunters are not taking part in any sort of natural culling, but rather a man-made situation so they can enjoy killing an animal. Even if the deer WHERE completely wild and the ecosystem was in tact (which it is not) what kind of deer are hunters killing? Fawns? The injured? The sick or old? Because THOSE are the deer/animals that natural predators kill. Very rarely would they ever go after a healthy full grown animal. Predators help weed out the sick and injured by attacking weak animals.
I don’t know of any hunters who proudly present their catch of several fawns, do you?
And it’s not just deer that are kept artificially high for hunters pleasure. Ring Necked Pheasants are farm bred and released for hunters to kill. Those who are not shot will die in the coming winter, for they are not a native animal and cannot survive the cold. They are completely non-native, but bred and placed specifically for hunters to kill. How is that any form of conservation?
Conservation is not “I’m going to wipe out several species of animals so I have less competition to kill other animals, thus creating and maintaining an artificial population of them so I can keep killing them”
Conservation is “I’m going to reintroduce species that have been driven to extinction in their former range so that the ecosystem can balance out again and maintain itself like it was before humans showed up.”
I’m not suggesting putting wolves in the middle of cities, there are plenty of ways to interact with apex predators that don’t involve killing them. But of course those don’t make American Hunting Lobby and others any money, so it’s not an option! And that would also mean less deer to kill (because hey would you look at that wolves/predators are keeping them in check naturally!) so hunters are largely against that kind of action.
Next, I will address trapping. Trapping is one of the most inhumane torturous types of hunting imaginable. Traps are set out to ensnare animals until hunters can find them and kill them. They do not discriminate. They will catch literally any living being that gets near them. To quote this article, referring to United States Fish and Wildlife
- With steel traps, wire snares and poison, agency employees have accidentally killed more than 50,000 animals since 2000 that were not problems, including federally protected golden and bald eagles; more than 1,100 dogs, including family pets; and several species considered rare or imperiled by wildlife biologists.
- Since 1987, at least 18 employees and several members of the public have been exposed to cyanide when they triggered spring-loaded cartridges laced with poison meant to kill coyotes. They survived – but 10 people have died and many others have been injured in crashes during agency aerial gunning operations since 1979.
- A growing body of science has found the agency’s war against predators, waged to protect livestock and big game, is altering ecosystems in ways that diminish biodiversity, degrade habitat and invite disease.
Read more here: http://www.sacbee.com/2012/04/28/4450678/the-killing-agency-wildlife-services.html#storylink=cpy
So it’s not just “target” animals that hunting kills. It’s endangered species, cats, dogs, and people.
And as far as canned hunts in other countries, it becomes less simple as the simple faux conservation I explained before. Yes, money is spent helping local populations. But is canned hunting the only way to help these people and animals? Certainly not. It absolutely stands against all reason to allow the hunting of endangered animals to help their populations. Money can be gained from other sources and different methods can be used to help populations.
But people have such a deeply ingrained (really something they are taught) belief that they are entitled to killing animals that they will fight tooth and nail to destroy them.
I cannot deny that money is spent on conservation through hunters, but it still does not justify the artificial populations, the ecological devastation (taking apex predators away, building roads through forests giving hunters better access, introducing non native species so they can be killed, etc.) and the spread of the idea that killing animals is your right as a human being. The ethics of whether or not killing an animal is good bad or benign is another discussion, but I can say with complete certainty that hunting does more harm than good to the environment.
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- add aliens
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2. make your characters fuck the aliens
what even IS american culture
it’s just a big ball of different cultures with no set value
i don’t get it
this might just be the most accurate discription of america ever
I just want to see how many people would be in favor of me having a trans main char for my independent game I’m designing for a competition.